This edition of "SOA Visionaries" featured David Linthicum interviewing Dr. Dale Skeen.

Dr. Skeen, who played a key role in moving enterprise application integration away from mainframes, talked about how SOAs and BPM -- which he described as "the perfect complements" -- are being combined with web 2.0 in an empowering new evolution of enterprise computing.

Here is an excerpt of just some of the many concepts described in the 21-minute podcast:

Dale Skeen: SOA is an enabler that allows you to access business functions, and services, and data universally. BPM is a higher level that orchestrates these business services and human interactions in ways that allow you to meet a business objective. So hence, I've always considered these to be the perfect complementary technologies to work together. Now again, I think what's very exciting and what we're demonstrating with our new M3O technology is bringing Web 2.0 as part of this formula.

David Linthicum: Awesome. And you know, when you say "Web 2.0 ultimately", so it's basically bringing together service oriented architecture bringing together business process integration and then marrying that with the whole emerging platform of the web and all the exciting stuff that's going on there. Is that a good depiction of what you guys are doing right now?

And also brings other ideas of collaboration really sending up teams of collaborations and supporting things like social networking and new forms messaging to one another. It supports also a new form of integration. You've talked about application integration, which is hard, and very techie. Well, Web 2.0 allows this notion of mashups where you let users sort of integrate and how flexible, lightweight, easy-to-do fashion.

And so that's the second cornerstone of this new convergence, which is Web 2.0. And the third again, is bringing BPM back into the equation. BPM is important. Business Process Management allows businesses to orchestrate their assets to achieve business objectives like to fulfill an order, or to acquire new customer. Okay. The novel thing about BPM has always been that's its graphical, it's what's called "model driven".

To define a process graph and then you can directly execute that. And I have made BPM easier to change and sort of elevate the experience. Now again, when you bring all three of these together, you get something fundamentally new. It's really a next generation enterprise platform.

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