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How would you like to see the cloud improved?

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Asked the forum not long ago, "Why are so many disappointed with the cloud?" So how would you like to see the cloud improved?

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  • Not so much the cloud really, rather how we choose to use it. At the moment many see "cloud applications" as having to run in the browser, thats the main problem.

    We should be using the cloud for services, for storage and for content. We shouldnt be using the cloud to deliver applications - via a browser...

    We should be using real "apps" that are installed on our devices (tablet, PC, Mac, Phone) to provide the user experience. That way the user has the best experience possible and application / system integration & custamisation need not suffer becuase we are now in the cloud...

    So it's not a cloud issue, its a software provider issue, one which we need to work on quickly (and I believe Microsoft have identified this with Azure, Windows 8 and apps apps apps...)

    • That is a good point Andrew, the most obvious case for me being outline and microsofts product + service approach.

      And it really is about creating a better user experience because that's what reduces stress and makes people more productive, as much as I love gmail it is a chore to work with compared to a powerful app running on my desktop.

      But then on the flipside part of the clouds power (in apps like Iceberg) is that the tools are flexible and can change with the company needs, now desktop applications just aren't build to run that way and even if they were the updates, rollouts etc can be complex. So I suppose you have to take the rough with the smooth and let html 5 come in to give a better User Experience :)

      • its far easier to roll out an app and configure it specifically for a business than it will be to modify HTML 5 and try to cater for all. This is proven time and time again whenever you look at any development project. No matter how re-usable / out of the box you think you can be, changes need to be made for that customer. Apps makes this far easier, in terms of planning, development, testing and yes roll out.

        An app doesnt have to be installed from a CD, rather it can be pulled down over HTTP, making the update seamless and painless (see Silverlight OOB experiences and Windows 8 apps) On top of that Microsoft will be delivering an "App" ecosystem for the PC making this even easier...

        HTML 5 will have its place, but for real powerful applications and solutions that leverage the cloud, apps are the only way forward...

  • Cloud computing needs to mature a bit more with respect to its ability to replicate enterprise architecture. Today the answer to "how do I..." is often rewrite, rework, or use our service (which is too often a poor approximation of the services currently in use in enterprise data centers today).

    Cloud providers need to keep innovating and offering cloud-based data center-grade services if it wants to attract and keep enterprise customers beyond the simplest of business and computing needs.

  • The overall concept of cloud for vendors still hasn't been fully delivered in my opinion.

    The whole point was to have a single grid where systems work and scale seamlessly, but that's really not the case, vendors still need to manage and scale their own blend of servers which really isn't very different from where we were a few years ago.

    Iceberg (www.geticeberg.com) lets users deploy browser based applications for process and workflow on an enterprises servers and also in the cloud so users can deploy applications in hours not days. But when it's in house they still need to provision a virtual server to put it on, it's not just a seamless 'install' onto an open grid.

  • Three areas for cloud improvement come to mind:

    1) The downside of cloud-based systems is ownership and portability of data. There are obvious privacy concerns (if I upload my data to a cloud-based provider, are they allowed to mine that data for information). And, if I want to transition to a different cloud-based service, how do I take my data with me?

    2) The proprietary nature of cloud-based systems – on premise systems are database backed…database standards are evolved enough that I can generally point a whole array of tools (such as reporting tools) against any database. The cloud has not yet evolved to the point that there are a rich set of tools leveraging industry standards to allow me to connect to my various cloud-based apps

    3) While the cloud removes the need for IT to build and maintain servers and has the ability to accelerate implementing a cloud-based system, as those systems are solving enterprise-class problems, the degree of customization is as big as it was in the enterprise world. And the need for integration is just as prevalent and just as difficult…and tools of cloud-based integration are far less evolved

  • Don't think there's something fundamentally wrong about cloud. It is just what it is and we probably won't see it having every feature we've always wished for until another technology comes along.

    The thing that struck me about proprietary is not just about a particular company trying to lock you in to a service but about the cloud technology itself - still misunderstood or ill - defined that traditional IT seems to secure itself with a firewall of mistrust. It's probably a survival instinct against the major hype but there's this mindset of 'if it surely was this good, it must be bogus' that has prevailed.

    What I'd like to see are more use cases, not your typical run-of-the-mill PR but those that came from real 'users' who have employed the technology with all its up and downs and how ultimately it was able to stick with the cloud and use it according to its own particular need that more people and companies are able to define it through how they picture them as solutions to their own needs.

  • Going through the points here, none really relate to the "Cloud" as such, rather they relate to solutions and services that are currently available via the cloud...These are two very different things...

    The cloud is an architecture, a way of implementing that architecture. In some ways many should see it as a "server" (especially when reading through these comments). People still dont understand what the cloud is, because they confuse it with cloud solutions or the different implementations of the cloud e.g. IaaS, PaaS etc.

    So business people / many should think of the cloud as the server. You dont complain your server hardware or server OS is rubbish because the software you have installed on it doesnt do what you want...Yet that is what I am reading a lot...

    To me, the cloud has a long way to go in being understood by the masses, including software vendors.....

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