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Is it Time for Cloud 2.0?

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Based on a podcast I recorded with Jeff Kaplan on Cloud 2.0, do you think it's time for Cloud 2.0?  If so, what are some important features in the next evolution?

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  • Yes, it is time. features are Combined Intelligence, Process Intelligence, web 3.0 based information gathering and more advanced security.

  • Yes, only if the answers to the following questions are also a "yes":

    • * Is there a universally agreed upon definition of Cloud 1.0? (Just think of all the debate around the "private" cloud)
    • * Are questions around security and privacy of data, interoperability and portability between clouds, and auditability sufficiently answered?
    • * Do we have adequate, agreed upon, and universally adopted standards for Cloud 1.0?

    Answering yes to the above questions would imply that we have reached or are close to a "steady state" for Cloud 1.0, which in my opinion is a prerequisite for Cloud 2.0. Think about it: when Web 2.0 came along, could we not have answered yes to all of the above questions for what we now refer to as Web 1.0?

  • Cloud has emerged as part of what we call Web2.0. I do not see what one would mean by Cloud2.0 – we still have a long way to go to see the adoption of that architecture in the first place.

  • I dont like terms such as Web 2.0, cloud 2.0 etc. Lets face it, nothing has changed from web 1.0 to web 2.0 technically, only how we now use it. We could have done pretty much all of the things we do now pre the days the term web 2.0 was coined...

    So basically, cloud 1.0, 2.0 call it what you want, is still just cloud computing....If the question is, is the cloud now a stable and recognised platform, then the answer is probably getting close to a big yes, though there are still many hurdles and questions that are in the way (and some will be in the way of cloud computing forever)...however, has the way business or individuals use the cloud changed / moved on so that we need to coin a phrase cloud 2.0.....No...

  • I see what Jeff is driving at, and yes, we are entering a new phase in which cloud is becoming more embedded and aligned with internal processes. But to call it Cloud 2.0 is sort of premature. As Tarak points out, we haven't really fully figured out "Cloud 1.0" yet.

  • I must agree with the comments made here. Also, say Cloud 2.0 is like saying SOA 2.0. They are architectures and architectures evolve. As architectures evolve do the principles change or do we devise new components and ways of doing things holding to those same core principles, why number them.

  • I think it is too early to make such a prediction. The current market traction is still limited to a few leading verticals and segments. Enterprises are not going beyond pilot projects at this point. The return on investment and risks involved are still being established. Having said that, in another one to two years time, Cloud 2.0 will see more interest from enterprises, once cloud becomes more mainstream.

  • While I understand what Jeff is getting in this next step/evolution that it is fairly specific to the SaaS model as it applies to the vertical market. ; I don't see this constituting as the next phase/version/era of the cloud as we use it.

    Much still needs to be tackled in terms of open data and API standards, and scaling of large i/o needs much work and can still be considered unstable at times. These need to be answered and solved for the cloud to be applied to a number of problems both at the enterprise and consumer level to say we have moved to the this next stage in evolution.

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